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Sage Podcast: With a Volatile Adversary and Capricious Partner, NATO is On Course for A Different Future. But Where is it Headed Exactly?
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Sage Podcast: With a Volatile Adversary and Capricious Partner, NATO is On Course for A Different Future. But Where is it Headed Exactly?

Kerry Buck and Jody Thomas join the Sage podcast ahead of the NATO Summit.

As NATO leaders gather for their annual summit, attention will be on defence production and procurement as a unifying theme. The North Atlantic alliance is managing not just Donald Trump’s erraticism but also massive changes in the nature of warfare as well as the enormous economic impacts on members of conflict far from its borders.

Two Sage regulars, former Canadian Ambassador to NATO Kerry Buck and former National Security Advisor and Deputy Minister of Defence Jody Thomas, tell host Edward Greenspon that Canada comes to the table more committed and more appreciated than in decades. They argue that Canada’s greatest contribution lies in doubling down on our software strengths while the next step toward a 3.5% spending target needs to place greater emphasis on NATO’s role in defending the Arctic.


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